Hi I’m looking now and seeing that all of the bulk imports don’t appear to have completed the identification stage and some of our more recent ones haven’t gone to detection. I wonder if this is the issue with why everything is so slow. What is the best way to address this? I don’t really understand what has happened with the older ones. Is this because the model changed?
I tried to send one of the bulk imports to identification but nothing seemed to happen
Hi @accfish
I’ve moved this to its own topic since the previous one was resolved. It doesn’t look like there have been any new imports in GrouperSpotter since 2025. Can you clarify if you’re having issues with newer attempts at bulk imports or if these are older imports that you’re referring to?
If it’s older imports, I do see two that haven’t started detection or ID, but if there are more imports that seem to be incomplete, can you post the links to those so I can take a look and see what I can do?
I sent this import to detection: https://www.grouperspotter.org/react/bulk-import-task?id=042eede0-a345-4591-b948-f8876d50bc1b
And this one appears to have gone through detection, but it only created 2 annotations: https://www.grouperspotter.org/react/bulk-import-task?id=b2b8db1e-6dbd-42f1-a01e-2bc37fcdce22
I’ll need more time to get this one back into detection because it’s being stubborn with my usual tools right now.
When I look at most of the bulk imports on the list it looks like none have gone through to identification and many haven’t gone through detection. Can you clarify what it means to go through the Identification stage. There are a few instances where we skipped it during bulk import but most of them do say sent. I’m wondering if the new model change and/or the new location IDs have made a difference and they all need to be reprocessed. However when I tried to go in and resend them to detection or identification I was not sucessful.
Last night I uploaded two new bulk imports to see how those worked….
Here are a few example screenshots of what I am seeing when I go into the bulk imports…
See this one from a while ago says 0% identification
This one that I uploaded yesterday still hasn’t gone through detection
However the other one from yesterday has gone through detection and 91% identification
This one from last year was sent to identification but only 4% has gone through…
this one from years ago (2021) says it hasn’t completed any detection or identification…
Aside from the two imports from today, the other 19 imports were from 2025 and earlier, where users needed to manually click the identification button on a bulk import in order for it to start. That’s not longer necessary with the updated bulk import workflow. It would help if you could link to specific imports you’d like me to look at so I can help you faster.
Detection is when an annotation is added if a fish is detected in the image. Detection has to complete in order for identification to run. The identification stage is where Wildbook compares the annotations in the database with the annotation on your encounter to locate potential match candidates. If you can see the match page with results on it, then the encounter has completed identification. If you skip identification, then you won’t have match candidates to review (may not be important if you already know the ID of the fish and can skip that step).
Based on your screenshot, it’s waiting in the identification queue. You can see the status in the Class column says “waiting to queue”.
For all the others I need the links to those import tasks because I’m limited by what I can infer from a screenshot alone.
ok I can send you links later today but I’m pretty sure it’s all of them. But that’s where I’m a little confused because I know the later ones did go through identification years ago. It it because it’s running on mieu? and not hotspotter?
Hi. Sorry I sent the screenshots so you could see what I was referring to. Here are a few links of bulk import logs that suggest they have gone through identification… (even though for the early ones I think they had originally)
Here is one from 2022 that says it qeueing…
https://www.grouperspotter.org/react/bulk-import-task?id=44a33048-678f-4a3f-8710-2c014a7bfb04
This one from 2024 says it was skipped but when I try to get it to send to identification it doesn’t seem to work.
https://www.grouperspotter.org/react/bulk-import-task?id=b2b8db1e-6dbd-42f1-a01e-2bc37fcdce22
this one from 2023 says only 4% was identified.
https://www.grouperspotter.org/react/bulk-import-task?id=aea43cb2-b4ef-4215-a87e-2003d6a5b176
This one from 2021 say 0% detection and Identification and is qeueing..
https://www.grouperspotter.org/react/bulk-import-task?id=ca32c880-b652-4ce7-9dab-8844b97bd7c7
Basically most of the bulk imports see to have stalled in some way. Do you want links for all of them?
I’ve re-sent this one to ID and it should be processing correctly now.
This one from 2024 says it was skipped but when I try to get it to send to identification it doesn’t seem to work.
https://www.grouperspotter.org/react/bulk-import-task?id=b2b8db1e-6dbd-42f1-a01e-2bc37fcdce22
This one is complete. There’s a known bug where the status icon at the top isn’t accurately reflecting the import’s actual status. When in doubt, look at what the status says in the Class column. If it says completed, then ID has finished for that encounter.
I’ve re-sent this one to ID.
I’ve also sent this one back to ID.
My recommendation is to check for the Class column and make sure the status says completed. We do have a list of statuses and what they mean listed here: https://wildbook.docs.wildme.org/faq/bulk-import-faq.html#what-do-the-statuses-in-the-match-results-by-class-column-mean