Lion viewpoints Right, Left & Up not being matched to Fronts & vice versa. Also, seemingly high rate of mis-labelled Right & Left viewpoints

What Wildbook are you working in? ACW

Issue 1 (configuration only issue, @jason ?):
In reviewing lion match results, I’ve noticed a very low number of match candidates for Right and Left viewpoint annotations:
129 match candidates in this example (target annotation = right viewpoint): Wildbook for Carnivores
147 match candidates in this example (target annotation = left viewpoint):
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(Although the first match candidate in the list is mislabelled with a right viewpoint.)

I’m not sure that all Right and Left viewpoints are getting matched to all variations of Front and Up as well? Which would provide a much higher number of possible match candidates in the database than we’re getting now.
New edit: I’ve just found a match results page for an “Up” viewpoint and it seems to have the same problem as R & L - it’s only showing a total of 629 possible match candidates: Wildbook for Carnivores

When I add up the total # of match candidates for each category, it looks like none of the viewpoints that are not opposites, are being matched to any other viewpoint.

Issue #2:
I’ve seen quite a high percentage of mis-labelled left and right viewpoints on lion+head annotations - lefts that should be rights and rights that should be lefts.
*Note1: due to multiple images in single encounter, in each example, only 1, 2 or 3 annotations are incorrect in each of the links below.
*Note2: I don’t consider a “Front” viewpoint on what might be considered a left or a right, incorrect.

Examples:

2 lion+head annotations both mis-labelled as Left in this gallery: Wildbook for Carnivores | Login

2 lion+head annotations both mis-labelled as Left in this gallery: Wildbook for Carnivores | Login
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I’m hoping that solving issue #1 above will reduce the impact of the viewpoint detection errors.

But for the latter, could it be that I made a lot of mistakes in the training data??? That would be really depressing…

Thanks!
Maureen

@jason @parham

Any chance you can look at this for us please?

Hi @PaulK and @ACWadmin1

I’m not sure that all Right and Left viewpoints are getting matched to all variations of Front and Up as well? Which would provide a much higher number of possible match candidates in the database than we’re getting now.

I did a check in the database, and here is the distribution of lion+head viewpoints:

VIEWPOINT | count
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back | 18
down | 1
front | 11543
frontleft | 69
frontright | 59
left | 160
right | 141
up | 632
upfront | 48
upleft | 9
upright | 9

One thing to be aware of is that when considering which annotations to match against by viewpoint, Wildbook creates a matrix of surrounding viewpoints and includes them in the query. Example:

A “left” viewpoint will be compared to other “lefts” as well as the surrounding viewpoints leftfront, frontleft, upleft, downleft, leftback, and backleft. BUT…not front. For most species, a solid left flank shot isn’t going to translate into a good front comparison using existing algorithms. Given those distributions and the matrix behavior, I believe the number of left photos to match against is low and that the left shots are indeed not being compared to fronts. I would guess that both hotspotter and PIE would struggle to compare a left to a front or an up to a front.

I hope that helps explain the numbers you’re seeing.

Thanks,
Jason

Hi @ACWadmin1 and @PaulK

Issue #2:
I’ve seen quite a high percentage of mis-labelled left and right viewpoints on lion+head annotations - lefts that should be rights and rights that should be lefts.

Given the distributions of lion+head viewpoints above, and assuming the training data for the detector model matches those dsitributions roughly, I am not surprised that left vs. right are common confusers. Relative to the other lion+head viewpoints, those are relatively small volumes of annotations (160 lefts, 141 rights) to train on. Wildbook doesn’t change the viewpoint prediction from the detector in any, so I believe these are legitimate detector mispreditions on viewpoint.

The workaround here short-term is to remove the annotation and manually recreate it with the correct viewpoint. Long-term, more perpendicular lefts and rights should be used in a future detector retraining.

As far as ID goes, I suspect HotSpotter will have some matchability of lefts and right lion heads, but I have no idea if left and right viewpoints were considered in PIE training. Matchability of those may be much lower than of purely front lion face shots.

Thanks,
Jason

Hi @jason, sorry for the delayed reply on this. I understand the logic you explain above however I’m wondering if enabling left & right viewpoints (and variations of that) to be compared to Front viewpoints is possible, hopefully via a configuration change? With lion heads, I feel that most Front viewpoints include a sufficient proportion of a left or a right side to be matchable to those other viewpoints.

Alternatively, I’d want to change all left and rights in this dataset to front; there are so few straight lefts and rights that they’re not worth worrying about.

Thoughts?

thanks
Maureen

Hi @ACWadmin1

The logic for comparison is at the Java code level and would not work for other species. I would like to avoid changing that, especially since we don’t know if “left” lion heads would even natch to a “front” viewpoint photo.

We could change “left” or “right” lion+head viewpoints to “leftfront” and “rightfront” viewpoints, to allow for matchability to “front”, but even there I suspect very low matchability given the angular difference. It’s an option, but once we turn it on, we change the expectation with users to “should match” when I suspect they will not. So I would not recommend it.

I will check with Drew on Tuesday whether we even considered simple “left” and “right” viewpoints in training. I suspect they were excluded.

Thanks,
Jason